Couple Hand Histories

[Naltia]

Here are few hands that i folded, was wondering if i were too tight in those

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4228464
Basic play at first, then opponent makes fair sized bet at river. Maybe first time that i fold AA.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4224861
Opponent was pretty loose, afterwards he lost his big stack kinda easily. (not to me damnit)
Oversized bet straight at flop, might indicate AK or something for me. Thought that if he'd have big overpair he would have tried some smaller raise. Anyways i folded to flop.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4232495
Sick game, propably should have folded to preflop. Flop hit good, but it did so to other guys aswell.

Comments are gladly taken.

[w00ty]

1)
wp imo. You bet enough on the turn to dissuade him from drawing out on you, but he called anyway. He hit the flush and that's that. On the other hand he may have just had a K and since you checked he probably thought his K had you beat. It will be more prudent to stay on the safe side and fold, but if you know that you'll be playing this guy more often in future it would be good to call it and write a note on him that he chases flushes/ represents scare card on river etc. Maybe observe him more to see any betting patterns/ river bluffs that you can pick off.

2)
I'm not sure about this. Does he usually raise bets? You have an overpair but it will not be good enough to beat his if he has one too, and it does seem like he's trying to protect his overpair with his flop bet. So i think you did the right thing.

3)
Why do you raise 22 and call a reraise UTG? I'm way nittier than you haha. Anyway, to me, set over set over set = super cooler. Accept it and move on. nothing much you can do really. kinda like having K4 in BB, and the flop comes K44, and you have an opponent with KK. Nothing much you can do about it.

[Alien]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4228464
Basic play at first, then opponent makes fair sized bet at river. Maybe first time that i fold AA.

I don't really know about this one. It might be flush, but it also might be pure bluff since you check. The main thing in these smaller games are that everybody try to make bluffs to much. And it will happen even more when you check to them. I think I would have call this one and if he shows flush you can write him as a fish (unless he got outs for straight draw too). Of course he should raise his flush+straightdraws, but yeah... these guys aren't aggressive

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4224861
Opponent was pretty loose, afterwards he lost his big stack kinda easily. (not to me damnit)
Oversized bet straight at flop, might indicate AK or something for me. Thought that if he'd have big overpair he would have tried some smaller raise. Anyways i folded to flop.

Thise one is kinda hard, if he is aggressive I think I would call and check on the turn and play some card to the end: blanks, 7 and 5 of course.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4232495
Sick game, propably should have folded to preflop. Flop hit good, but it did so to other guys aswell.

I would never fold this one preflop. You raise UTG which is ok. Somebody calls your raise. Another one 3bets (against bet and call this isn't too much, he will have a good hand). Then somebody cold calls (he will have a very good hand). And then it comes to you. I can't see that the fist caller would raise after you call. So this is 100% call preflop. I think you will get even odds to call this one, and when you go to the implied odds it's 100% call.

Flop is normal, bad luck. Well played.


Afterall, pretty though hands.

[Melvin]

1. I dont think I would be folding aces here. Villains hand is pretty much bluff or a flush here after the river bet, and some small amount of time valuebet from a worse hand. There should be decent amount of missed straight draws in his range a that he could be bluffing here with and by checking the river you are inducing one.
I also dont think it would be bad to make smallish valuebet (1/4 pot or so) on the river and then fold if the villain ships it. People like to call alot in small stakes, and dont generaly like to bluff over your bet. But check - call is propably the best way to go with, all tho folding isnt really that terrible either.


2. This is a tricky one. I think folding or calling are both fine in this spot without better read on the villain. Against an overpair you still have 6 outs so it cant be too bad. His hand looks to me like hes going to go with it till the end, on the turn you pretty much should fold if you fail to improve and he keeps on betting.


3. Its pretty standard raise and call preflop given that there is other player also involved in the hand whos very like to call the 3bet aswell, this improves your implied odds quite a bit.
The flop is just super cooler, but on the bright side, atleast you werent the guy with trip tens

[w00ty]

in my reply i suggested calling with pocket 2s. after reading all your replies, i realised that all of you would raise 22 utg. why is that? sorry if i'm sounding fishy.

[Alien]

I also dont think it would be bad to make smallish valuebet (1/4 pot or so) on the river and then fold if the villain ships it. People like to call alot in small stakes, and dont generaly like to bluff over your bet. But check - call is propably the best way to go with, all tho folding isnt really that terrible either.

Well at the beginning I was thinking the same, but after realized that betting for example 1/4 pot will commit hero to the pot. Atleast I think so. The pot is 8.1e at the river. If you make about 2e bet on the river you have put more than half of the stack to the pot. And after that you might still fold the best hand if some idiot comes over the top with king. You never know about these guys. Of course if villain comes over the top he usually got hero so... I don't really know.

I also like blocker-bet in situations like that, but I think the pot shouldn't be that big comparing to the stacks. I still like check-call in this one.

in my reply i suggested calling with pocket 2s. after reading all your replies, i realised that all of you would raise 22 utg. why is that? sorry if i'm sounding fishy.

Well I think that if you can really play post-flop better than your opponents you should play as many good hands as you can (more from position of course). If you limp-call it tells (atleast it should tell) to your opponents that you mainly have a kinda weak hand and they can outplay you easily. But if you raise, they can't never know what you got. You might have aces, deuces etc. It's not too bad to even fold 22 UTG at shorthanded if you don't how to play post-flop but I think raising about AT+ and every pocket pairs gives you decent stats to go on (vpip, pfraise).

It might be not the most +EV thing to raise small pocket pairs at NL10 but I think every player who thinks a little bit will beat NL10 anyway. But later you can't play too weak and I think that everybody is aiming for the bigger games

[Naltia]

Thanks for the earlier analysis!. Here's Some new hands I'd like to share

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4254531
Propably too loose to call 3bet at preflop, but i had stolen blinds from that guy 3 times already so thought he might be just pissed off. After he called flop, i put him on AK and went all in at turn. Got lucky at river.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4253914
Other case of cracked aces. Didnt lose whole stack atleast .

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4253597
Be carefull what you wish.... Got Full house from river, overbetting it and then got pushed all.-in. Should i have played it differently?

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4254820
Finally bad beat that ended my first session at NL20 tonight.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4258222
Edited this hand in since nobody hasnt replied anything yet. Is it reasonable place to bluff? Enemy raised me on flop few hands before, flop was about same back then also.

Feel free to comment.

[Naltia]

To take away some dust from this thread.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4938259
(Is check/fold usually good line? Didn't know those guys were such a donks)

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4938301
(same guy few hands later)

http://www.pokerhand.org/?4938327
(Maybe could've tried to get some value at river, I just don't like to bet these situations OOP. Tell me if it was too tight a play)

Please comment

[Alien]

1st hand: yes, well played.

2nd hand: std

3rd hand: yes, you should really take value, and if the opponent comes over the top, you should fold.